Are AG Holder and Rep. Gohmert (R-TX) Buddies?

Or is Eric Holder just a Smug, Arrogant, Elitist who holds nothing but Contempt for the Separation of Powers?

You Decide.

Transcript of Exchange:

(Background:  At issue was a request for documents in the DOJ’s case against the Holy Land Foundation, a designated terrorist group based in Texas, whose founders were convicted and sentenced for funneling money to Hamas. The men are now asking for a new trial, blaming their lawyers for their convictions. In February, the DOJ disputed their attorney’s claim, saying there was a “mountain of evidence” that proves the Islamic charity was controlled by Hamas.)

“I was fairly specific to make sure that I got the documents that the Department of Justice handed over to people convicted of supporting terrorism. They’re terrorists. We’ve given them the documents,” Gohmert said. Gohmert said the committee sent the Justice Department repeated requests for the documents that had been used to prosecute them but were only provided a link to “nearly 500 publicly available exhibits that were admitted into evidence” and instructed “to check the public access to court electronic records.” Meanwhile, the requested documents were “put on discs and sent to Illinois,” so they are easily available – “just not to members of Congress,” Gohmert said.

“Attorney General, I’ve read in the 5th Circuit opinion, about 9600 summaries of transcripts of conversations that the Justice Department had that were made available to attorneys for the terrorists,” Gohmert said. “I still do not understand why your department can provide documents to terrorists’ lawyers, and many of them to four out of eight of the terrorists, and not provide them to members of Congress.” “Sir, I’ve read you what your department promised, and it is inadequate, and I realize that contempt is not a big deal to our attorney general, but it is important that we have proper oversight,” Gohmert said.

Holder: “You don’t want to go there, buddy. You don’t want to go there, okay?”

Gohmert: “I don’t want to go there?”

Holder: “No.” Gohmert: “About the contempt?”

Holder: “You should not assume that that is not a big deal to me. I think that it was inappropriate. I think it was unjust, but never think that that was not a big deal to me. Don’t ever think that.”

Gohmert: “Well I’m just looking for evidence, and normally we’re known by our fruits, and there have been no indications that it was a big deal, because your department has still not been forthcoming in producing the documents that were the subject of the contempt.”

Holder: “The documents that we were prepared to make available then, we’re prepared to make available now that would have obviated the whole need. This was all about the gun lobby and a desire to have a—

Gohmert: “Sir, we’ve been trying to get to the bottom of Fast and Furious where people died, where at least a couple hundred Mexicans died, and we can’t get the information to get to the bottom of that, so I don’t need lectures from you about contempt, because it is very difficult to deal with asking questions.”

Holder: “And I don’t need lectures from you either.”

Gohmert: “As a former judge, I’d never have asked questions of someone who’s been held in contempt. We waited ‘til the contempt was purged, and then we asked questions.”

(H/T Melanie Hunter at CNS News)

So either AG Holder and Congressman Louie Gohmert are “Buddies” or Eric Holder is an Arrogant A-Hole.  May be both.

Hmmm…

Considering We the People wish to see Lois Lerner of IRS Targeting Political Enemies Fame placed in Contempt… it’s worth wondering what power that charge actually has?

If you’re found guilty of Contempt of Congress such as Eric Holder has been, So What?

I’m pretty sure I would be put in Jail.

I guess if you’re associated with Government, you become Buddies.  You also Demonstrate for all of us out here Who still Give a Crap that you’re Above the Law.

And when You’re the one in charge of Enforcing the Law where does that leave us?

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Libertarian Dissonance

Or, Who are We?

Over the last 72 hours I’ve heard a growing number of TEA Party Conservative Types trying to square their Libertarian views with what’s going on in Europe.

The dilemma seems to be the Libertarian Ideal of Non-intervention versus the United States’ promises which have been made through Treaties.

I confess… After, After, After being Anti-Socialist, I’m more Libertarian than anything else. Even so, I believe we must honor those commitments made through treaty. It’s True I’m not interested in being the world’s policeman, and I would work diligently to remove the United States from many of the commitments we have made decades past, but until that happens we must honor those we’ve made.

The reason I feel this way is we have nothing on the World stage if not our word.  And I guarantee there will be times we need those who have made agreements with us, the U.S., to honor Their promises.

So here we are… today… facing What it Is, not What we may Wish it to be.

The desire to not intervene is understandable…

Once upon a time, The United States stood for Liberty and Freedom of the Individual. It was a radical idea born out of the Enlightenment. This idea led to the formation of a Nation governed by Law instead of Men.  We used to want Other’s to have Individual Freedom and Liberty…

We used to have a Mission.  But we have wandered far from those ideals once at the forefront of our Foreign Policy and most importantly our Domestic Policy.

Because of that I can relate to those out there who believe we need to focus on our own home-grown problems at this point in time.

And,

Do I want to run around the world and commit Men and Material in defense of people I do not know, who apparently don’t like us?  No, I don’t.

I would prefer Countries in need of our help ask us directly… that would be the alternative to treaties as far as I’m concerned. You need us? Just Yell so Everyone can hear you.  If you decide to champion Freedom and Liberty of the Individual, we’ll help.  If not, you’re on your own.  Good Luck.

But those are not the circumstances at the moment.  We have Obligations, whether we like them or not.

But that really isn’t the issue in my opinion.

The Real Problem is what makes us any different from those we wish to oppose?

That should be the Primary Question facing all of us as we watch Russia “take back” what they believe to be theirs.

What do we stand for?

Why Should the Ukraine, or any other Nation for that matter, ask for our help?

What do we represent that is worth those in other Countries to risk dying for?

These are not rhetorical questions… I’m not sure I know anymore. And I don’t think they do either, which may be why they’re not asking for our help.

All of this aside, promoting a position of standing aside because of Libertarian principles, or because you might enjoy this current Administration looking like Fools (Which they most certainly do…) is to allow those who see the faults of Communism/Socialism to remain Slaves of it.

At the End of the Day I am Anti-Socialist first. All other things second. I am not interested in giving anything to Socialists, Ever. Ever.

I hope there will be more Thinking about where this is all headed and less Reveling in the Mess created by Progressive Buffoons.  Yes, they’re idiots who cause more problems than they solve… so vote accordingly.  Right now we have a problem and it has to do with the disappearance of American Exceptionalism.

(I will issue only one warning… there will be those Progressive-Liberal Republicans like McCain and Graham out on the networks hoping to win favor with people like me.   They will not. They are a distinction without a difference when it comes to Socialism. Their time, that should never have come, is past.)

The events we’ve seen unfolding over the last several years from Georgia to Syria to Cyprus to Ukraine… to Russian Destroyers in Cuba to North Korea getting the Nuke and the Means to send it, to China poking Japan and promising to “unify” Taiwan and on and on… all leads to it “not being okay”.

There is a War going on.

All is not Calm.

And if we don’t take a position the rest of the world hears and understands clearly, all will not be calm.

What Position will that be?

What will we Stand Tall for?

(As an Aside:  The Libertarians have a similar problem with Immigration.  Ideally we are Open Borders.  The Problem is the Poison Pill of the Entitlement State.  Too many of us fail to recognize a Trap even when it is made By Fools.  Which makes Us Fools.  That’s why we must Makeaneffort.)